Submitted by Cyrus M on 2020/03/26 for Seat 81A
The seat was so spacious and excellent. The crew was so awesome and helped me out throughout the flight. They had really good food and I LOVE LUFTHANSA SO MUCH!
Submitted by Sindre H on 2020/02/28 for Seat 16K
Good legroom to be bulkhead seat. Nice to not have a seat in front that reclines into your space.
Submitted by Christian S on 2020/02/21 for Seat 25d
Middle seats on 747 in last row of premium eco have up to 6cm smaller width due to aisle narrowing towards back
Submitted by Devin B on 2020/02/15 for Seat 86a
Positively wonderful
Submitted by Jane M on 2020/01/24 for Seat 25 F and 25G
This was a fantastic seat. Almost like flying Business Class. Although the seats were not "lie flat", they did recline , were wide and very comfortable. There was plenty of leg room for my husband(6'2") and me(5'7"). There was an amenity kit, thick blanket and pillow for each seat. We were given a menu to select our dinner.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2020/01/02 for Seat 21H
Currently, it says that the legroom is restricted as it is a bulkhead seat which is not true.It is an exit row seat which has unlimited legroom and it even has its own footrest + legrest which makes the seat even more comfortable than other premium economy seats.Just like other exit row seats, there is no seat in front of you so all personal belongings must be stowed in the overhead bin and the personal monitor is stowed below the armrest. However, it doesn't make the seat narrower since all other premium economy seats have their tray table stowed in the armrest anyway.The same applies to 21A, C, H, and K.Seat 22D, E, F, and G are indeed bulkhead and they do have slightly restricted legroom.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/12/24 for Seat 45J
The worst seat is 45J. You can't even lean on the wall to get some rest because the seat is 12 inches from the wall. My partner and I were completely uncomfortable during this 9 hour flight from FRA to EWR. I don't know any male over 5'8" that could sit in such a narrow seat. We had to take turns eating our meal because the seats are so small. The flight attendants were amazing and were very attentive. In the galley the put out additional waters and snacks but I don't think anyone knew. I will never ever fly Lufthansa in Economy every again.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/12/24 for Seat 25C
I sat in 25C on an overnight flight. Premium Economy on Lufthansa was fantastic. I did not like that Premium Economy was last to board out of EWR. I paid more so I would expect to be boarded right after business class. The seat was wide and roomy, lots of leg room for 6'2" guy. Service was fantastic. I would definitely fly Premium Economy over Economy anytime.
Submitted by Murali I on 2019/12/22 for Seat 20D
These seats do not recline fully, leg room is cramped and it costs a bomb to secure these seats! Stay away from this entire row, as the long flights in these seats are painful!
Submitted by Jane M on 2019/11/25 for Seat 25G
Premium economy. Well worth the extra $. Lots of leg room for 6”2” so. Amenities kit.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/11/19 for Seat 83A
Quite loud when meals are arranged just behind.Reduced capacity of overhead bin due to emergency equipment in overhead bin.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/11/05 for Seat 46H
Lufthansa 797 Hong Kong > Frankfurt46 H + 46 JFoot area for these seats have media equipment.So under the "45" seats there is media equipment.
Submitted by Marco G on 2019/10/16 for Seat 21K
As other have said: Row 21, seats A, C, H, K can be really annoying if there is a line in front of the wash room. There is no barrier, some waiting people there even tread on the feet of the people sitting in row 21. I would mark those seats as red, not yellow. In addition, seats D, E, F, G have limited legroom due to the bulkhead.I do not understand why PE was placed in between economy segments instead of directly after the business cabin.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/10/07 for Seat 16a
AVOID ROW 16 Row 16 is Baby and Families so no sleep at all because of noise of Babys and Children chatting at night long with there parents
Submitted by Tomek S on 2019/08/27 for Seat 16A
It is a bulkhead seat but with plenty of legroom.Recommended.
Submitted by Tomek S on 2019/08/27 for Seat 41K
It is a standard seat however there is a metal box under the seat 40K which makes leg room narrower than other seats.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/08/26 for Seat 16C
This seat is terrible. The curtain separating Business and Economy takes away half your leg room. Because it's the first row with smaller aisles, carts and personnel keep bumping into you.
Submitted by Christopher R on 2019/08/25 for Seat 27H
I chose this seat because it was premium (extra cost) and claimed more comfort. Yes it had more legroom but it was probably the narrowest seat I had ever experienced. That wasn’t the biggest problem, however. Due to the seat configuration , the seat goes into the aisle, causing lots of knee bumps.
Submitted by Lourival J on 2019/08/11 for Seat 30A
Entertainment box reduces space fir feet
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/07/26 for Seat 4D
Row 4 has no issues with the galley/lav, because it is reserved for F and the cabin is served from the back, plus there is a thick curtain there (and not much traffic to that lav anyway, since there are two lavs in F serving 8 pax). This means that there is very little traffic from either the crew or the passengers for pax seated in this row. Maybe the bulkhead is a problem, but it seemed to have possibly more room, not less.Also, there are bassinets in front of 4A/C and 4H/K
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/07/12 for Seat 84K
Row 84 on the upper deck is a bad seat. The FAs are preparing meals and drinks in the space of the emergency exit, located between rows 83 and 85. Trays are placed on the box containing the screens. It is a very noisy row with permanent action going on.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/07/04 for Seat 28C
Row 28 has reduced leg place to due the boxed for video system of the row 27
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/06/19
Regular Premium Eco seat and if you arctic proven you will like it. The aircon outlet above the luggage boxes blows streight into your face of the middle row seats. I was freezing the entire flight. The two seats at the window side are not affected of this. so if you prefer rather warmer seat you may choose one further back in the premium eco or one which is not middle row.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/06/09 for Seat 82K
Do yourself a favor and select this seat! was great !I would avoid row 84. I ddi notice lots of activity and lights on that row....
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/05/28 for Seat 46B
The seat 46B gives you a lot of room to stretch your legs next to the seat in front of you. It is the same for the seat 46J, I can highly recommend this seat.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/05/09
Seats in row 16 will not allow stretching legs if you're taller than 1m75 (5ft2) due to the hard wall in front. That is, UNLESS you sit in 16C or 16H, which will let you stretch your legs under the curtain to business class. Then, privacy is awesome as there is no passenger traffic in the corridor here. The row is equiped with baby carriers so you may be out of luck for a good night's sleep.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/05/05 for Seat 7
It was comfy, I did not find a problem seated close to the Galley.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/04/23 for Seat 28K
This my be "economy premium" but it is a horrible seat! It was so tight I couldn't even read a magazine!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/04/13 for Seat 18H
18H is a very good seat for standard economy. Nobody annoying at all and next to the gate if you are in a hurry for connecting flight. LAVARATORIES - go to the ones at the end of the plane. There are 4, normally less used and very clean.
Submitted by Nils B on 2019/03/28 for Seat 84A
As emergency exit space is used for storage of carts, and for handout of meals there is extra noise. Magazine storage in shelf right ahead of seats creates some traffic.
Submitted by Jeff D on 2019/02/21 for Seat 18H
Limited legroom - about 15cm less width - (for entire row) because of a box beneath the seats of row 17
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/02/15 for Seat 35
Very good seat, has more space than others airlines
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/01/31 for Seat 21
Row 21, seats A, C, H, K can be really annoying if there is a line in front of the wash room. There is no barrier, some waiting people there even tread on the feet of the people sitting in row 21. I would mark those seats as red, not yellow.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2019/01/14
Row 27 ist perfect for extra leg room and the front row is very far away (my hight 6,7). Also the back of the seat is flexible an you can lean backwards. No serving or dishes, bathroom area near by.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/12/19 for Seat 46J
Legroom is OK if you're taller. Due to the room on the side of the chairs you can stretch your legs here and put down stuff. However, this becomes hard when the person in front of you reclines his/her seat making the required slight turn to put your feet on the side pretty hard.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/12/18 for Seat 85C
85C on LH 499 MEX - FRA. What I really love about this seat is the privacy on the upper deck of the super silent 747-8. It feels like being on a huge private jet with a few other people around. Being 1,94 tall the seat is not really comfortable for sleeping as too short but one gets through the night ok. In sitting or chilled position it's fine. I got lucky and the neighbor seat stayed free so I had tons of storage space for myself and for sleeping just extended my legs to the neighbors footrest. If you have a neighbor though it'd be bothering in terms of privacy. The food was really good. Inflight entertainment is good. The flight was on time. My only complaint is the attitude of the flight attendants. Fairly arrogant from the beginning and not very attentive as too caught up being fabulous. Which is a shame, cause all in all, LH business class in the 747-8, especially in the upper deck, is a great product.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/10/17 for Seat 4D
FRA - ORD. A lot of people complain about the seat's lack of privacy which is true - you are out in the open. In my opinion, the spaciousness of the cabin and seats make up for that lack of privacy. I am 6'6" and not as thing as I used to be. These seats are very roomy and it is extremely easy to find a comfortable sleeping position. The center seats have the best storage space as well. Lufthansa cabins tend to be too hot to get a good night's sleep on an overnight flight but they are fine for a day flight. Honestly, I prefer these seats to the new United Polaris seats.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/10/14 for Seat 19F
Frankfurt to Chicago O'Hare. The TV screen boxes for the row in front (18D-G) are positioned on the floor resulting in much-reduced leg room for everyone in seats 19D-G. Aside from that, a classic Lufthansa experience.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/10/10 for Seat 84C
GREAT! The service was the best I have ever experienced. Food was great. Movie selections very good. I cannot say anything bad.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/09/23 for Seat 9A
I really liked this seat when I was flying from BOS-BCN (VIA FRA). It was really comfortable and all the people were nice but I wish Lufthansa had fully flat beds because when I flew I had to put my feet on the compartment. It felt like an Angle Lie Flat!
Submitted by Marcelo A on 2018/08/31 for Seat 8D
A great business class seat!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/08/18 for Seat 87 Row
This whole row has the overhead storage compartments almost filled with aircraft-related materials....almost no available storage for passenger's carry-ons...a caution.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/08/05 for Seat 42D
Extremely tight in all directions. In a word, sardine can accommodation. In addition, the aft section of the plane issubject to considerable yaw. Very uncomfortable. All that section should be, at best, yellow.
Submitted by Wolfgang H on 2018/07/18 for Seat 27H
Just completed the Flight from JFK to Frankfurt in this seat with extra legroom for extra money... horrible idea as I am long and not skinny. This seat is quite a bit more narrow than a regular economy class on the 748 and much narrower than regular economy on the A380. Due to the fixed armrests containing trays an monitors that means bout 4-5 inches less width and the power outlet under the seat and the aisle switching from premium economy to economy it is right in the path of the cabin crew with their trollies means it doesn't have full extra legroom. It has only about 60% of the width of the legroom usable at all. I got hit in the shoulder with the drinks trolly as it protrudes out one side slightly and I am too tall to fit my shoulder under that latch and the crew slammed the filled food trolly into the front of my seat where the aisle jumps from two seat premium economy to three seat economy on the outside. If that tray hits your knee full on thats a trip to the hospital at least. This seat should not cost a premium of 75 it should be half price! Next time either my secret great seats on the A380 or premium economy on the 748.
Submitted by Airplane J on 2018/07/01
June 2018, lots of kids were in business class and they were noisy. We were in the upper deck and took the advice to be in the back of the upper deck because it was less noisy. I think the front of the upper deck may have been better and you get BOSE head sets to block out noise. The seats are awkwardly pointing in and the tv screen and is below average quality. The screens do not stay put all the time and the slanting of the seat is awkward. This was my worst business class experience so far. The flight attendant was blocking everyone upstairs coming down with his armand favoring first class cabin first, then the following side of business class downstairs.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/06/04 for Seat 27H
Row 27 has great leg room. The aisle is turning slightly due to the PE seats in front. People passing by will bump into the person seated at 27H. Next time I will choose 27D or G. Paid 77euro for 9 hours night flight BLR-FRA. Worth the money.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/06/02 for Seat 82HK
82HK are great seats. Being on both the upper deck and near to the bulkhead mean they feel more private than the rest of Business Class, particularly compared to the lower deck. Additionally, I feel all A and K seats on the upper deck should be given a mixed (very good and average) review. These seats have extra storage bins under the windows, but do require climbing over the passenger in the aisle seat (C or H) if they are in lie-flat bed mode.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/05/18 for Seat 85C
one of the best seats in the market. LH's service is outstanding and this is a great brand-new plane. With only 32 seats on the upper deck, you truly get the private plane feel. Dedicated staff, and very comfy seat. I purchased a Basic Business fare for not much more than Premium Eco, and it was totally worth it. 14,5 hr flight and had to go straight to meetings- so I was very grateful for it
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/05/17 for Seat 28H
TV-BOX under the seat claims a lot of legroom
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/05/06 for Seat 81k
This seat is a preferred seat but in my opinion the seats up to row 84-85 are way noisier than the seats towards the back of the upper deck. Also, you are normally first off the plane when you sit in the back of the upper deck. So that is my choice.
Submitted by Dorothy C on 2018/04/27 for Seat 23 A
Had Premium Economy seat 23 A . Not great with location of bathrooms right in front of you...there is a gathering space which was often full. Also, though the seat is very comfortable it is really hard to get out to the aisle if you are in the window seat and either person has their seat reclined, which is common for long haul flights. Probably 6" space to squeeze through to the aisle
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/04/21 for Seat 16H
Flight from Frankfort to Newark. Seat 16H is awesome and no extra charge up from Economy. First seat behind business class, extra legroom. Feet can go under curtain and into business class . First seat served. Individual seat monitor along armrest. When selecting seat, choose this one!!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/04/18 for Seat 1k
Fantastic first class experience
Submitted by Robert K on 2018/04/08 for Seat 16c
Despite the legend, this seat has a lot of legroom
Submitted by Patrick R on 2018/04/08 for Seat 45B
Row is 2-4-2 however 45B,C seats are slightly left of the seats in front in row 46. The tray tables that are in the seat back drops off center to the right so a bit awkward as it rests on right armrest. Also slightly less pitch than the middle seats in row 45. Appears to be approx 1/2 to 1.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/30 for Seat 27G
Must be the coldest seat in plane as you sit in a horrible drought - I get freezed during my 10h flight from JoBurg to Frankfurt. Seat is very narrow. Plenty of legroom is a plus. Wouldnt pay 100 EUR extra to reservate this seat again.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/28
FRA - HND Very good for couples to have a private space that extends across the cabin and no traffic. Elegant open feeling with the nice touch of a rose on each window sill and power blinds for the windows. comfortable bed that for myself at 5'11" was more than required in length and a nice width. Everything a person could want in both the Lufthansa hard and soft product to me. Same seats a week later on the way back to Germany. For couples that want to be a little closer and chat the row 3 center seats work well. For couples to both enjoy the view and privacy, 1A and 1K work well.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/16 for Seat 33J
One of the worst seats in the plane. Middle seat with almost no recline and next to the galley. Being next to the galley however means you are always served last (and not always all options are still available).
Submitted by Robert K on 2018/03/10 for Seat 87H and 87K
These upstairs business class seats are great. They are comfortable, the selection of video includes first-run movies (I watched two 2018 Oscar winners!) and having three flight attendants for 32 passengers led to attentive service. The angling of the seats is a bit odd, but it's easy to adapt.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/07 for Seat 44K
Fuselage starts to narrow near the window, this seat is noticeably narrower than the seat in front of it (43K). However, there is no seat directly behind you so you can recline during meal service without interrupting anyone. Not a bad seat, but caution is advised.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/05 for Seat 34A
All row 34 on this flight was an "infant" row, with room for 4 bassinets in total (one left side, one right side, two middle). Good legroom (I am not very tall) but no support for feet. IFE system and tray table are in the armrest. Any luggage must be stored for take off and landing. The plane is rather old.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/03/03 for Seat 19F
Very bad seat, Besides being squeezed between seat E and G you cannnot stretch your legs because of the metal leg of the front seat and a metal box that is placed underneath the seat in front of you. It is a shame that LUfthansa charges you the same ticket price for this seat. It should be less! Very uncomfortable!!!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/02/24 for Seat 45H
Seat has advantages mentioned by others, but unlike its counterpart on the other side of the plane, the overhead bin is devoted to a medical supply box, so you have to find another bin for your carry-on.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/02/21 for Seat 09C
BAD SEAT - DIRECTLY NEXT TO CREW CLOSET AND BATHROOM. CREW CONTINUALLY BUMP INTO YOU WHEN USING THE CLOSET DURING THE NIGHT. SAME WOULD APPLY TO 9H
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/02/14 for Seat 1A
If 1K is empty (which it was on my flight), then 1A is the way to go with a private jet feel for a 10 hour flight. Otherwise, take 2A or 2K if privacy is important.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/02/02 for Seat 1A
very nice First Class. Very very quiet cabin due the special carpet and special dividers between First Class and other plane.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2018/01/30 for Seat 19F
Significantly reduced leg-room due to a device installed under seat in previous row.
Submitted by Samuel C on 2018/01/27 for Seat 84K
In my opinion this seat is one of the best in the upper cabin. For long-haul flights it is best to select the upper deck for its small jet feeling. This, as all upper-deck window seats have plenty of storage space on the side. Could get a bit chilly as in all the window seats happens.
Submitted by Serge M on 2018/01/10 for Seat 10A
Flew FRA - EZE on seat 10A, it was fully ok though close to the galley. Food was fine and cabin crew was very kind and attentive
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/12/01 for Seat 1K
I think 1A/1K should be green. Also noted that they are great seats for couples and provide the most privacy on the plane.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/11/30 for Seat 83A
I was exposed during 13 hrs to an non controllable AC blasting cold air to my head.The crew (inclusive. co*ckpit) was not able to influence the AC at all.I had to sit there like a homeless of NY City wrapped in blankets.A shame for LH newest 747-8
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/11/28 for Seat 34D
Infant bassinets are available at seats 34C, 34D, 34G and 34H. They can only be reserved by calling Lufthansa in advance or when checking in at the airport.
Submitted by Thijs d on 2017/11/25 for Seat 23K
I'm 199 m, but this PE seat gives me plenty of legroom. Not as much as in business, but PE should be condsidered an upgrade from economy. Personally I think the recline is too much. When the person in front of you fully reclines, the personal space (=face distance) gets very small.
Submitted by Marc Z on 2017/11/20 for Seat 24E
Proximity to lavatories can be sensed / smelled.Temperature- and air condition wise recommendable
Submitted by Marc Z on 2017/11/20 for Seat 24C
Proximity to lavatories still bothersome (smelly...)Permanent A/C current from atop - bring warm clothes and a scarf!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/11/17 for Seat 18A
Flew from FRA to BOS. Seat 18 A is located in the first part of the Econmy Cabin. It can be not chosen in advance but only during Check-In or by preferred customers only. Therefore in this part of the cabin several seats were not occupied while the rest of the cabin was full. The Seat is not bad, there is enough legroom because there is no box of the IFE under Seat 17A. Service is unattentive, food is below average.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/10/19 for Seat 18D
I was seated in the first row of Economy, the centre section right behind the bulkhead to Business. I can't recommend this seat, as there really isn't that much extra legroom and the already narrow economy seat is even narrower on account of the IFE and traytable in the armrest. Mediocre service and confort overall. I would avoid this aircraft; the A330/340 I've flown on with LH are quieter with better IFE.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/10/11 for Seat 6H and 7G
IAD to FRA in Business Class seat 6H (side aisle, lower deck). I also tried 7G in a middle pair. The middle seat pairs are set at a much greater angle to each other -and set farther from each other- than the side seat pairs. That results in a bed length that is meaningfully longer (due to the angle). The middle seat pairs also offer significantly more foot room, due to the larger console in the center. I am 191cm/6'3" and 6H was not quite long enough and left me with no foot room. 7G in the middle pair was significantly better. I have not seen this in other comments.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/10/08
My husband and I recently flew from Frankfurt to Chicago on this plane. We are short(both under 5'6 and 5'2") and small stature. I sat in G and my husband across the aisle in seat H. The foot room was poor to say the least. I had only a small backpack and no purse. I could only put the backpack sideways under the seat ahead of me and barely fit my feet aside of it. When the person in the seat in front of me insisted on reclining her seat fully for the majority of the 9 hours I barely had any personal space. My husband had a similar experience. On the way over on the same plane I sat in the middle seat next to him on the side aisle. Believe it or not I had more leg room there. The attendents do a nice job of serving meals and making water available the entire trip. The seats were typical airline seats for comfort which translates to not good on that long of a trip. At this point I would only consider upgrading for more legroom to fly on this plane again.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/10/02 for Seat 88c
I have to say this was the worst experience flying business that l have had, it took a hour from leaving the lounge to boarding the plane, no bridge so we had to go by bus then wait forever to board, the seats are narrow and hard and something not much larger than a shoe box to put your fleet when sleeping, my return is premier economy, so lets hope its better for the price.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/09/09 for Seat 11C
I would choose Lufthansa again over British business.The best thing about these seats is they are great for flying with a companion.Wifi was great, and the TV screens are nicely shielded so you don't see much from others' screens. However, your screen is not directly forward of your gaze, which is slightly annoying. Programming is limited.Sleeping was OK. Elbow space is cramped, there is no knee support, and the blanket is too thin. The mini cabin was also chatty on my flight beginning 2 hours from landing.Food was uninspired.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/08/25 for Seat 20D
The lavatories are not bothersome as the entry is rear facing with a corridor to hide the people and door so people do not congregate next to you.The recline is not restricted from what I could tell.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/07/28 for Seat 27K
Travelled from Frankfurt to LA on this plane booked seat 27K heaps of leg room in fact I couldn't even touch the seat in front of me, even though I had a window seat I didn't have to climb over everyone to get out just walked around them worth the extra dollars a very highly recommended seat
Submitted by Rafael R on 2017/07/21 for Seat 86A
Spent a good time on board flying to Boston from Frankfurt. Lots of space to put al your cabin bags. Feels almost like a second table, perfect for a small notebook or anything else while using the try table for lunch. I just don't like that your feet are coming near your neighbors when you lie flat. Although there is a partition wall, I felt a bit uncomfortable.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/07/09 for Seat 7k
very comfortable seats and plenty of leg roomflt 403 was not as comfortable.maybe they will refurbish that flt.looking forward to my next flt. anysuggestions on best business seats on these flts. thought i would try seats in center. very cold by window
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/07/06 for Seat 84K
One of the best seats in the air for business travel. Smaller, quiet cabin on upper deck, less chaos than downstairs. Seat is comfortable and window seat (as on all 747s)provide great combo of view and huge storage bins to keep carry-on stuff accessible all the time - taxi,takeoff, landing, etc. Perfect for two travelers, as access to aisle still tricky if aisle passenger asleep and not related!
Submitted by Swen B on 2017/06/22 for Seat 45B
I´m 1.86m tall. Still one of my favorite seat in a Jumbo. But if you get the chance to book 46B this could be the better one, because with a bit of luck, the person on 45B put nothing in the free space between the seat and the aircraft, so you can stretch your legs thru this space in 45. After all, it´s Eco and still better than any US-Carrier i´ve ever flew on intercontinatel flights.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/06/20 for Seat 20j
My wife and I had seats 20j and 20K from FRA-ORD. I found the seats to be quite uncomfortable. We did not mind being close to the lavatories since these seats are between the business class and economy premium seats. We had plenty of incline for the seat. I just felt sorry for the lady next to me because I am 6'1 225 and I took up some of her space with my shoulders. I would of hate to have 3 people 200+ in 1 row.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/06/09 for Seat Row 16
All seats in row 16 have extra legroom compared to standard economy class seats.Seats 16C and 16H provide even more legroom due to the bulkhead-wall being shorter than three seats, wich allows you to put your feet alongside the aisle.Only possible downside is a minimally reduced seat width due to the monitors which are stored in the armrests (same as row 27)
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/06/06 for Seat 87c
Good leg space, though cramped near the feet. Fellow next to me kept kicking the small plexi divider which kept pushing into me. Luggage space is limited due to sitting on "bubble" but also a much quieter flight due to less activity. The USB slot is less than intuitive but the multiple seat options assure you will find an angle that works for you.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/05/14 for Seat 46J
Very good place for your legs
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/05/06 for Seat 32G
Seats 32D, 32E, 32F and 32G have limited recline.
Submitted by David S on 2017/04/28 for Seat 84A
This seat is business class upper deck near the window. Big comment is that although it is a flatbed seat anyone over 185cm will have to sleep sideways and fold your legs, bumping into the passenger on your right. I am 196 and I just didn`t fit. I looked around and mostly saw people stuck in as a cocoon to their flatbeds. Maybe 84A is shorter in length because instead of a seat in front it has a panel. Also we never got the amenity kit. And if you have to leave the seat and the person next to you is sleeping it is quite an exercise to get over without falling. Service was impeccable and food was great ... but to me the most important is comfort and space and I didn`t have the space to lie flat.
Submitted by German G on 2017/04/19 for Seat 22A
I have to agreed on the proximity to washrooms can be disturbing, but also the people standing up in the free area, even people praying in front of you. Kind of busy area but great seat and great comfort
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/14 for Seat 47H
Nothing wrong with seats 47H and 47J. Recline was fine. We didn't have to worry about reclining too far back into someone's lap!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/10 for Seat Premium Economy
Premium Economy Class is the waiting area for the dedicated toilets which also serve the Economy Class - never again!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/10 for Seat 8C
Bit of an issue regarding Toilets on the main deck for business travellers (apart from the toilet smell affecting seats 9A, 9C, 9H & 9K)Only 2 tiny toilets for 48 main deck business passengers compared with 2 (larger ?) toilets for 8 firstclass passengers and 3 (one larger ?) for 32 business passengers on the upper deck
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/10 for Seat 22C
The first row in premium economy on the window sides is great. The only downside is that economy and premium economy are not separated by a wall or a curtain, so everybody uses the dedicated toilets.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/10 for Seat 16H
16 A and C, as well 16 H and K are good seats in the economy cabin...especially the aisle seats with plenty of legroom and storage behind the last business class row. The curtain is a little close, but on a night flight I did not care as the legroom was great.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/04/07 for Seat 16K
Very good seat. I am only 5'8" but there was enough room for me to fully extend my legs. I feel having the tv and tray table in the arm rest is better because you have more flexibility. Definitely recommend this seat.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/03/17 for Seat 41F
I fly with Lufthansa from Athens Greece to Chicago and back. I am very happy when I fly with the Airbus but Today I flew with the Boeing 747-8i and the seats are very small and uncomfortable I will not fly with the Boeing again.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/03/10
This is a wonderful plane with amazing seats!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/03/02 for Seat 84A
The row 84 is not a good row to sit in. Why? The flight attendants deposit their bottles and service stuff right in front of you on the wall. (due to their so called signature service) During the service you have constant traffic and work right in front of you, very disturbing. Secondly it gets really cold after a while because of the doors right in front of you. I would rate it the least comfortable seat row on the upper deck.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/02/26
Both rows are inside the Economy compartment air-conditioning zone.Hence the airflow is much louder than in rows 4-9.I sat in seat 11H and compared the two zones.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2017/01/24 for Seat 22K
Lufthansa has the 2nd best PE in the world. The 1st one is Air New Zealand on the B787-9. Anyways, nothing to complain. The seats, legroom and comfort are the same found on the very beggining of the Business classes in the 80's on DC-10 and B747-200 aircrafts.My flight was on a B747-8 and row 22 is very close to the toilets, be aware. It is also a little bit strange the arrangement Economy/Premium Economy/Economy, as you can see in the seatmap. Lufthansa, please improve the gadgets of your PE class at the airport, like a pre-boarding and separate check-in for example... AF does.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/12/27 for Seat 31A
Absolutely terrible economy class in LH's B748! Very narrow cramped uncomfortable seats (whereas 747's cabin width allow seat width of 18"!), IFE power box under the seat, very bad ergonomics - IFE remote control mounted in the headrest making it inconvenient to use, USB port is located under the headrest which is also inconvenient. All these factors make this B748 unapplicable for long-haul flights. AVOID flying economy class on this plane!It's a HUGE SHAME for one of the Star Alliance founders! Food was the only positive thing. It's a way below Qatar's, Emirates and Turkish's food, but eadable and quite tasty. All the uneven rows in the middle cabin of economy have 2 windows.It's common practice to LH to start terrible STRIKES every year on the Thanksgiving Day. The period between about 7 days before and 7 days after Thanksgiving must be blackout for flying LH. AVOID AT ALL COST FLYING LUFTHANSA WITHIN THESE DATES!!!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/12/19 for Seat 9G
The business class seat was very comfortable and the amenity kit was alright. As my seat was against the wall, I had a lot more storage than the other business class seats which was good as I don't like putting things in the over head compartment. The only bad thing about this seat was that to get the table out, you had to move all your little thing to the side in order to open the compartment to which were you can get the table out. The noise cancelling head phones were good quality, the food was very good, and the overall experience was quite good.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/11/12 for Seat 83A
The 747-8 is really nice. As for the "footsie" seats, I didn't find it a problem but I am not sure my seatmate ever reclined. Lufthansa food and service was good as always!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/10/24 for Seat 16K
Despite more legroom and seat width limited by embedded tray table and PTV, there was no window on this seat. It was covered by a wall, so there is no usual space to lean on, like other regular window seats.
Submitted by Rafael R on 2016/10/02 for Seat 32K
Have flown it FRA-MEX. Seat was ok, however all seats A and K (at the window) have a box underneath for the entertainment system. Makes it a bit bad for the feet on a 12hrs flight. Tabe is almost not usable due to not enough space, but thats the fact in most eco classes. Be creative when food and drinks are served! Food and crew were great for what you can wish for in eco.
Submitted by Web W on 2016/09/06 for Seat 23H
IAD-FRA. I'm 6'6" and weight 265. Legroom was great for a non-bulk-head/exit row seat even when 22H reclined her seat all the way. I was surprise how far the row in front reclined; far enough that the screen on my 15" Macbook Pro would have been damaged had I not seen it coming. Too, when the pax in front of you recline their seats all the way, it makes exiting your seat quiet difficult without pulling on the seat in front. But then again, when the person in front of me is 5'6" and doesn't look behind them before pushing back to full recline, my consideration for the row in front of me lessens somewhat. Def. worth the extra $ for leg room ... I just figure it as one of the costs of being a tall person.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/07/20 for Seat 46B
Good seat! Due to the body of the aircraft that becomes narrower in this part there is no seat directly at the window. So there's a lot of space beneath the window for bags and enough room for your feet beneath the seat in front of you!
Submitted by Hilton M on 2016/06/04 for Seat 25G
The seats 25D to 25G which is the last row of PE are each about an inch narrower than the rest of the PE seats. This is to facilitate the transition to the economy seats. It makes a big difference.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/06/01 for Seat 29C
THE "NEW THIN DESIGN" SEAT IN ECON SECTION ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, NARROW AND HARD. USING THE TABLE/TRAY IS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE DUE TO SPACE BETWEEN SEATS, SO ALWAYS TILTED UPWARDS. NORMALLY FLY THE NEW PREMIUM ECON WHICH ARE MUCH BETTER EXCEPT THAT PROXIMITY TO TOILETS MEANS FLUSHING TOILETS FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT AND PASSENGERS WAITING TO USE THEM-FEELING OF SITTING IN A CROWD. OVERHEAD BINS ARE HUGE.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/05/31
Absolutely awful seats in economy on Lufthansa 747-8 from Frankfurt to Dulles. Seat was one of the newly 'designed' seats to maximize room through reduction of seat width, resulting in absolutely no ergonomic support to lower back. Had to stand up for 3.5 hrs. of 7.5 hr. flight due to lower back pain, which I don't normally experience on conventional seats. Crew and food were great, but the seat made the flight unbearable.
Submitted by Adam R on 2016/05/19 for Seat 27G
Row 27 in this configuration is the first row of normal Economy class immediately behind the Premium Economy section. One thing to note - this is NOT a bulkhead seat, as there is no bulkhead. There is only a partial semi-transparent "screen" hanging way above the last row of PE seats, Other than that there is no physical partition between PE and normal economy. This means that you get loads of leg room there. Actually way more than PE passengers have! At the same time, as it is not a bulkhead or emergency row seat, there are no limitations in stowage of your personal items for takeoff and landing. Personal viewscreens and tables are in the armrest, but this did not make the seat too narrow for me (and I'm not exactly thin at 175 cm and 100 kg). Notable feature is that in the last row of PE seats, i.e. row 25, A, D, G & K seats have monitors in the back too. The monitors have very limited functionality, so for personal entertainment you still need to use your armrest device, howver those backseat screens have working USB charging ports, which are more convenient to use than the armrest ones.The only drawback of the row 27 seats is that remote control for personal entertainment is at the inner side of an armrest, which may lead to you pressing buttons accidentally. All in all these are probably the best Economy Class seats on this plane.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/05/09 for Seat 45b
Has two AV boxes under seat in front so limited legroom. No A seat so extra room between seat and window to place things. Too far from wall to sleep against.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/05/09 for Seat 45c
Has AV box under seat in front so limited legroom.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/04/28 for Seat 42a
Wonderful aircraft, food and entertainment. My flights were both ways from ord to fra.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/04/14
FRA-EWR seat 85H, upper deck.Why LH chose the two-seat side-by-side arrangement in business class is beyond me. They should have joined their Star Alliance partners and gone for single seats when they upgraded business class a few years ago. In the middle rows on the A330, A340 and A380 as well as on the upper deck on the B747-8 they've even chosen to angle the foot end of the two-seater in towards each other so both share a rather narrow space with a flimsy divider in between. This is due to space restrictions. That said, the seats themselves are very comfortable and the service impeccable. The problem is of course that your co-traveller in the window seat has to climb over your legs when you're sleeping which can easily disturb you. In the outermost (window) rows of these aircrafts the seats are aligned parallell to each other. Another peculiarity in the LH seat is that apart from the seat control itself, all other functions such as light, attendant call etc. are hidden under the foldable armrest. That means you have to get rid of whatever glasses, books etc. you've placed next to you in order to open the lid and press the buttons. Strange. On the plus side, the seat is, as mentioned, very confortable. I'm 195/6'5 and slept very well indeed. As for the B747-8 itself, it's a bit more noisy than expected, especially as speed picks up you notice an increase in the airflow induced noise. This might be better downstairs, I don't know. Perhaps the grand old lady is starting to show her 1960's basic design, but compared to the A380 and even quieter A340-600 it's a marked difference for the worse. Given a choise I would take the A340-600 any day.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/04/08 for Seat 19E
Seats themselves were comfortable and the adjustable headrest was very nice indeed! knee room was good thanks to the newly designed Lufthansa economy seats. However, there are a couple of problems. Avoid E seats were possible! The entertainment box for the screens, as well as a mounting point for the seats in front are directly where your feet should be, so you have to attempt to share with the person sitting next to you. Not good! Also, the selection of entertainment was good, but the 'standard' entertainment screen were quite slow and you really had to push hard into the screen for it to respond. The new screens on the old 747-400 however fixes this. They are higher resolution and extremely fast and responsive!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/02/29 for Seat 25H
This seat although being in Premium Economy is subject to bumping and being pulled by the passengers behind. This appears to be because of the increased recline of the seat and in this position it closes the available space for the economy seats behind. It was comfortable here but these seats 25 A,C,,D,E,F,G,H and K would all be susceptible to this as only a Half length curtain is departing the zones.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2016/02/22 for Seat 11D
I was in seat 11D, center seat in the last row of business class in the lower cabin, on a flight from Newark to Frankfurt. The benefits of the seat were the extra wide console between seats in the center aisle, the ease of getting out and not having to move for the person next to me to get out (since they also had aisle access). I was not bothered at all by the economy seat passengers behind me. I found the flat seat to be very comfortable, the service to be quite good, and the overall experience to be exceptional. In addition access to the business class lounges offered by Lufthansa were a nice addition, in particular in Frankfurt which offered shower rooms and was quite roomy (Newark's was rather cramped and oddly shaped).
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/10/15 for Seat 27C
Great legroom, but the reduced width of the seat made it very, very uncomfortable. Almost would rather have been in a normal seat!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/10/11
Flight from Buenos Aires to Frankfurt and return in the new Premium Economy class (13 hours' flight!). Very comfortable seat, lots of legroom including footrest at the back of the seat in front, extended recline, wider seat than Eco, wide armrest in-between the neighboring seat, which makes you feel not cramped at all, good separation with the passenger next to you, wider VOD screen. A bottle of water in every seat and a welcome orange juice. Food and drinks seem to be the same as for Eco class, anyway they are usual LH high standards, All in all an excellent experience (and I had the chance to pay a little bit less than the normal Eco class!!) Highly recommended!.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/10/09 for Seat 28D
Position should be good. Not the first row, aisle, no toilets or galleys... But, there is at least one very annoying problem: feet-room. Entertainment-Box AND arm-table (from front-seat) AND Life-jacket reduce feet-room up to a incredible small space, where just one of my feet will fit! NO GO!!!Folding tables are very cheap crap. They fold twice, and none of them get to be a flat surface. They don't have any borders to avoid sliding of contents, so you keep all time worried on avoiding to through things down. Seats are very skinny on their thickness, so there is more room for long legs, even if front-seat lays back. Thou, Seats aren't obviously very comfortable, since fewer stuffing. In overall, legroom, is ok.Seats have a chronicle problem to get back to vertical position. I think most of them need help from board personal. Quite odd problem.Lufthansa, have you economized TOO MUCH in your furniture?!
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/09/29 for Seat 47J
Extra elbow room between seat and window, enough to put my backpack next to me. That is good, as the area under the seats is broken apart badly through poor design on the the seats. My backpack was a tighter fit down there than on most reginal jets. In these pairs of two seats, the main IFE box is outside the support leg and right where your right foot wants to go. You get to choose to have it tight on the left with your other foot and the passenger next to you, or put it in the open space between the wall and 46J. Although this is a back-row, it does not have the wall behind it, rather there are oxygen tanks and the emergency door. Thus, the seat reclines as much as any other in coach. There is a gap there where people congregate for the lav, but it is not bad because there is so much space. The USB and Ethernet ports under the arm seem to be disabled. The IFE headphone jack is that old two mono-jack affair. If you want to use your own headphones, bring that silly adapter. I do not think that escaping out side is allowed, at least when observed. The gap between the wall and the top of the armrest is ~5" at the back and ~8" at the front. I might go for 46J or 45J next time, which have much more space. Also, note that there is a small IFE box under the seat in front of 47H.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/08/13
27D on this version of the 747-8 is a great seat. In fact the entire middle section of 27 is great, ample extra legroom. Well worth the $100 upgrade. There is no bulkhead as stated. Also sat in 25D for an in flight upgrade to Premium Economy. Have to say if I booked on LH again I would fly PE all the way. Comfier, wider seats with more recline plus a footrest. Loved the 747-8...what a plane.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/06/25 for Seat 32D
very bad seat, box in the sapce for feet, same problem with D in rows above and under.feet of front seat not aligned on space for feet, makes even less sapce to put feet.I had to deport my feet on the right, very uncomfortable. NEVER AGAIN
Submitted by Rasmus V on 2015/06/23 for Seat 16A
16A is a good seat. It offers extra legroom and no noise and no passing people. it is easy to get out from the seat even when people sit beside you. Good overhead luggage compartment share with business class.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/06/10 for Seat 10h
Seats 10c and 10 h are the worst business class seats on a 747-8 v3. They are not standard seats because they have been forced into a smaller angular space as the aisle changes direction to go into the alley area. These aisle only have approximately 75% of the console space that the window seats have in front of the seat. There is no panel or storage area to the left of the video screen and no coat hook. If one puts one's legs straight ahead they block the aisle. Seats 10 d and 10 g take up maybe 40 % more space and the bulkhead console is maybe 1.5 times wider than that in front of the two seats on either side. This is very poor design. Also you should look at the bulk head seats in the front row of business on this aircraft where there is no console and very limited storage space.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/05/19 for Seat 23A and row 27
I enjoyed the Premium Economy class for the first time. Seats 23A and C were nice as they were close to the front, but not too close. I did no sit in row 27 but I noticed that this front row of the economy section has a HUGE amount of legroom. I don't know how much the alternate tray may have diminished width, but I thought these people really hit the jackpot getting that much legroom for no surcharge. Seats C and H in that row did project into the aisle which may be a bit bothersome for some, but due to the extra room in Premium Economy in front, it didn't seem to be a big problem.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/04/29 for Seat 24G
The new premium economy seats are very good, I am over 6ft and they were very comfortable for a 12 hour flight. The Entertainment system is also very good. However, as others have said the cabin arrangement is very odd with economy seats in front and behind the premium economy section. This means that the service is no different to that in economy with the same food. Overall a bit disappointing - there needs to be a greater differentiation between economy and premium economy to justify the additional cost. Also quite a bit of noise and queues for the toilets.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/04/28 for Seat 25H
Flew to JFK with a party of three (two in economy and for one we bought an upgrade to premium eco at FRA airport for 299 euro). This Premium eco seat was very comfortable, more leg space, food is same as in eco but on china wear, some more drinks, a small amenity kit, IFE excellent (same as eco). They were quite promoting (pushing) passengers to, even after boarding, buy an upgrade to their Premium eco. Seems like they have a hard time selling those seats as the rows were very under-occupied although the rest of the cabin was 90% filled. I'd be hesitant to buy it in advance as the upgrade on the spot is a much better deal but you need to have some luck to still get one of those seats...
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/04/28 for Seat 19G
Flew to JFK on April 17 from FRA with party of three, service and food just average, excellent IFE, never got bored, we were seated in the little compartment just behind Business class, kind of cozy.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/04/18 for Seat 24F
The seat was comfortable, a bit wider as Economy and much more leg room which makes the journey comfortable. The only discomfort, compared to others, are the harder seats, whilst the lower back support didn't match with my back, too high located. The service is better as in Economy, comes close to the Business Class. At Buenos Aires we had to board together with Economy Class based on row number i.e. we were the last to board. It would be an improvement if we could board after the Business Class, which gives your trip a bit more cachet.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/03/03 for Seat 25G
Just finished my 1st flight in LH's Premium Economy on my return from FRA to HKG. Compare to other airlines I am using frequently on this routing, the major con is the missing curtain, separating PE from Y-class and lavatories. It is always noise due to people on there way to/from the lavatories.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/03/01 for Seat 22K
22K FRA to GRU. Lots of legroom (technically an emergency exit row) and curiously no cold air from the exit. Con´s: heavy traffic of lavatory goers from standard coach plus no dividing curtains - pax thus have direct views of the toilet bowl every single time a lav door is opened plus disturbing light from the lavatory. Applies to all four seats 22ACHK.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/01/27 for Seat 22G
Seat 22D to G does have restricted legroom because of the Bulkhead. Row 22D to G have less legroom that 16A-C and 16H-k
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/01/26 for Seat 23K
Tried LH Prem Econ seats for FRA-ORD as an alternative to business (I don't really like to sleep westbound, induces jet lag). Overall a nice improvement over plain coach. Service is the same as LH coach, which is to say compitent and polite. Pros:* Plenty of legroom* Seems to have more seat width than Econ* More recline* Fewer people per row = more overhead bin space per person* Board plane via Business / First lane (irrelevant if you are Star Alliance Gold or higher)Cons:* Unless you have the isle seat, its very hard to get in/out of the row because of the seat recline* IFE system had some gremlins, reset twice* Window seats have a seat support bracket that interferes with foot placement and kind of reduces width under the seat. * Headrests are awful. Several broke on the flight. * Footrests only work for short people (Dear LH: Some of us are over 5' 8")Meh:* Odd cabin sequence on this version of the 747-8: First, Biz, Econ, Prem Econ, Econ. Not sure why they put more econ seats inbetween the Biz and PE sections. * # of lavs seems to be just ok, sometimes a bit of a wait.* No lounge access unless you are *Gold or better, or pay extra. Overall, I would recommend spending a few extra dollars/euros for these seats. It compares favorably to UA and DL "econ plus", which is just more pitch but the same width. Good job LH.
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2015/01/18 for Seat 25K
I flew from FRA to EZE for more than 13 hours. New Premium Eco Window-Seat. Wider seat with wide armrest with enough space for 2 arms. Seat has an Extended recline and a foot-rest on the back-side of the seat before me.This seat is more comfy than a normal eco-seat. Worthwile thinking of it especially on very long flights. I had the possibility to sleep. The Food is the same as in Economy.Pricing reached the upper Limit by paying EUR 620.--. If unsold seats such Premium Eco Seats are sold approx 45 minutes Prior to Boarding for EUR 350.-- approx. The aircraft is the new B747-800 which has much larger luggage bins but is quite noisy inside and the number of toiletts with 2 for this section of the aircraft is rather low. On both sides of the toiletts upto 5 persons each were lined up.I would recommend Premium Economy seats for flight journeys of more than 8 hours
Submitted by SeatGuru User on 2014/11/05 for Seat 22F
New Premium Economy seat was very comfortable and VOD screen was great. Slightly limited leg space at bulkhead but on the other hand no backrest in your face. Not sure food/service was any different from regular Economy but still high LH quality
